Phil Rossiter wrote:I disagree edmond because I don't think the example would come up in competitive play.
Every time I have fought O&G in a tournament the Big'uns block has been Savage, with Lucky Shrunken Head Shaman, BSB and often other characters. You might find a block of 40 EG in a decent WE list but it would be very unusual. 3 Treekin and 10 Rangers are I agree with you, way too fragile. But comparing a passable unit to bad ones is not enough to justify it IMHO.
A combat scenario where the WE unit gets a flank charge is also a bit optimistic I feel. What if the enemy gets a flank charge? What if the Dryads (who can't Flee) get charged?
The Dryads have made it into my list for the reasons I gave earlier. If you could give an example edmond of a decent (not necessarily strong) list with them in that would be very helpful. Particularly to show how they would do a better job than picks from outside of Core.
Hey there Phil!
The reason I took the regular orcs as an example is because this actually favours the rangers and the treekin over the dryads.
The savage orcs have no armour, which doesn't influence the kill outcome of the former two, but which does mean the dryads will cause more casualties. Of course, the boosted ward save means the damage will be lower for all examples... But for all of them equally.
Moreover, the extra attacks will mean the savage orcs will cause more damage. This favours the dryads too. The rangers risk not having anything left after a single round. The treekin risk having a casualty within the first round and as such would lose a stomp immediately... And four attacks at least on the second turn.
I wanted to show that the dryads are still the best combat support even against opponents that favours their competitors
And I agree that 10 rangers or 3 treekin make for poor units. Exactly because at the role you'd put those units in (combat support), the dryads are better. My claim is that in this role, they're the best, because they have the highest amount of attacks per point value. For more or less the same value as the dryads, alternatives are either too fragile (rangers, wild riders, good units but in different roles) or do not offer the same attack output (treekin).