Old Glade Lord model

[matt9872]

I have just downloaded the Age of Sigmar app on my phone and came across a Glade Lord model that does not appear on the GW website. Has anyone else noticed this? Its a nice model, I'm curious if it will be a future release.

[PensivePanther]

Oh really? I hope its true, I've been looking for a good glade lord model.

[Waywatching]

Where in the app have you seen this? Can't see anything new in there myself.

[UKlvrBM]

I don't see a new model, but one that they haven't sold in a while.

However, I did notice the dryad and treeman scrolls are gone. I guess they removed them with the upcoming release.

[Duraska]

Dryad and Treelord (Treeman) now appear under the "Sylvaneth" faction. They no longer appear under Wood Elves.

The model for the Glade Lord is just the old female Noble with Spear (a great model, btw, wish they still sold it). It appears in the past 2 Wood Elf army books.

Btw... the speculative side of me wonders if the fact that Treekin were left in the Wood Elf section implies that only the Dryad and Treelord/Ancient will be kept moving forward, and the models under "Wood Elves" might be phased out? Really interesting is that Durthu still appears under Wood Elves, yet his Kit is the same as the Treelord and Treelord Anciient, who appear under Sylvaneth. Does this mean when the Treelord's new box comes out they won't talk about Durthu, but just call that build option "Treelord with a sword" or something? There's no "sword" attack rules on the Treelord warscroll (yet).

[matt9872]

Ah, my bad then, did not know it was a old model rather than (as I had hoped) a new one. Shame really. Seems weird they would have it up given they only seem to include models they sell.

[Duraska]

Yeah. Unfortunately the negative side of me has come to believe we'll never see a new "Wood Elf" model again. I think there might be some "Life Aelf" faction or something down the road that is distantly related to what we have now, but I think the days of the Wood Elf model range are limited.

[UKlvrBM]

Yeah. Unfortunately the negative side of me has come to believe we'll never see a new "Wood Elf" model again. I think there might be some "Life Aelf" faction or something down the road that is distantly related to what we have now, but I think the days of the Wood Elf model range are limited.

Good catch about the treeman and dryads. I posted this in another thread, but I've been told by my local GW store manager that a new Durthu model will be out sometime soon and it will be $100. He talked me into buying one of the new models. I've wanted one but have two older ones, so I never "needed" it. Anyway, he said that they were sold out online and that I'd better buy this up if I didn't want to pay $100 for Durthu. Then I get home and see that they are still online. I checked again yesterday and they are sold out. So it seems like his advice was solid.

[Yojimbo]

Isn't Durthu dead in AoS?!

[Avalon101]

I was hoping that they were going to expand the range of forest spirits and replace the tree kin. As it stands, they look to be streamlining them, though we don`t know what Alarielle has left in her seed pods. I`m looking forward to seeing what the new queen of the woods brings when the story line catches up to her a bit more.

Isn't Durthu dead in AoS?!

Some (most) of the old characters are back. The fluff reasons (souls from the old world remanifesting themselves somehow) are poor enough to reveal the true reason; GW don't want to unleash all the nerd rage involved with telling their customers to scrap half of their collections (although a lot of the current models won't be supported in the future), they`re playing a long game. A rep from GW said that for example; when the new Orks come out, the old ones won't be supported. But Durthu is plastic, so I can hold out some hope for him at least. Also, I loved the old world, even though it was stagnant. I just wish Ariel had come back.

[Cernunnos]

My guess is sylvaneth are "wild" forest sprites. Tree kin are souls of wood elves, so makes sense for them to watch over their live kindred. Durthu is somewhat protective of the elves and has dealings with them through choice.

[frogboy]

Seems very unlikely that a new Durthu model will be released so soon after the most recent release...

Also changing the title to Old Glade Lord Model

[UKlvrBM]

Seems very unlikely that a new Durthu model will be released so soon after the most recent release...

Yeah, but the guy was right about them being "sold out" when they clearly didn't run out of them in a matter of hours. Maybe they were planning on making a different treeman special character. There was at least one more mentioned in this book or the old one. Now they could just give it two different weapon/accessory options and package it as both characters. Release a new scroll for the treelord to include a sword. Then they have their $61 model package back, with just the cost of changing instructions and they have a new $80-100 model package for two special characters. Or probably more likely, they are changing the bases in them.

[Cernunnos]

It'll be a repack, round base, or oval with enclosed war scroll. The treeman is a new sculpt, it's not going anywhere.

[popisdead]

Try to remember that in 2005 when WE got their reboot they had 16 metal character models (I think at the time only O&G beat that) so for GW to keep all of those in stock regularly and through the Finecast shift is unlikely. So it isn't unexpected to see models you can no longer get 10 years later there were metal characters.

[Duraska]

On the GW website, the Treemen are just "temporarily out of Stock." So either they sold out due to being a pretty powerful warscroll, or GW is bringing out the next batch with round bases. I do not believe they'll re-vamp the Treeman/Durthu model at all. This is still a very new model, and they show it all over the place. Oddly, currently there's only 1 model in the Sylvaneth faction on the GW website, and that's the Sylvaneth Forest. Strange that it's now showing up under the Factions section and not Scenery. Honestly, the categories on the GW website seem to change daily - so I wouldnt put too much speculation into things right now.

I do believe that almost every metal model will be discontinued. Age of Sigmar seems to be designed completely around selling shiny new latest/greatest models, so I think they'll just let the current inventory dwindle and them remove them quietly from the online store. It's possible there might be some new plastic models for some of the old metal ones at some point down the road, but we'll see. I think their strategy is to come out with new $60-$100 kits pretty regularly to keep people buying. I don't think they care too much about supporting the old, obscure metal models for the old armies (which technically don't even exist any more in the fluff).

[overtninja]

Since there's a Sylvaneth vs. Nurgle campaign thing going on soon for AoS, I suspect that the tree spirits are being repackaged with round bases in prep for it.

[Siegfried]

I have the book with the 'new" Sylvaneth warscrolls. There is only a Treelord Ancient, a Treelord, a Branchwraith and a Dryads warscrolls, so no Durthu at least for now...

[Cernunnos]

Like I said previous: sylvaneth are "wild" forest sprites. Tree kin are souls of wood elves, so makes sense for them to watch over their live kindred. Durthu is somewhat protective of the elves and has dealings with them through choice

Hence Big D is not in their list but still on WE's.

Seems like Sylvaneth is a bit limited at the moment in terms of options.

[Hyarion]

It really seems like GW is trying to break away from the traditional concept of "armybooks". Barring rules for allies, each armybook provided a unique way to experience Warhammer through it's particular sets offerings of options and drawbacks. Dwarves offered consistently high Leadership, highly effective warmachines, etc at the expense of no magic, low movement, no cavalry, etc. It is simple to come up with equivalent lists for any other army book (more on this later).

A player's choice of armybook (further refined by their own "fluff restrictions" or style preferences) therefore represented very significant choice and a particular fusion of stylistic preferences "I like armies with good cavalry" and acceptable penalties "I don't feel hampered by the fact that my chosen armybook doesn't have warmachines." The fact that a little bit of imagination and elbow grease, coupled with general acceptance of "counts as" armies effectively removes artistic preferences as a barrier for any particular army list except all but the most egregious cases*. Bretonnian armies could be effectively modeled completely with High Elf miniatures and virtually noone would bat an eye as long as the player was consistent with how the army was modeled. Each armybook therefore was required to have a certain degree of "completeness" so that players would not feel too hamstrung for having chosen it to play with.

*I fielded a Wood Elf Bloodbowl team, The Kansas City Leafs, who were all supposed to be mental patients. My Treeman, Mr. Squeekers, was a squirrel who thought it was a treeman. Physically, it was a very small miniature squirrel on a very large base. Most other players thought this was funny and appropriate except for one player who just complained and groaned.

While certain model ranges will have a pleasing degree of artistic cohesion (All wood elf models together, skaven models together, lizardman models together, etc) and while they may have certain bonuses in certain combinations (Wanderer nobles eliminating battleshock tests for other Wanderer units and such) I want to make the argument that GW by their elimination of Armybooks as a means of introducing cohesion and standardizing penalties (All Dwarves have low movement, No Wood Elf access to Heavy Cavalry, etc) have done away with the concept of "counts as" armies/models as well forced us radically rethink the concept of an army.

An important part of the game of warhammer used to be that every player, regardless of their chosen army list, had a limited toolset (based on their chosen army book) to deal with the problems posed by other army books, and the utilization of those available options was part of the fun and the challenge of the game. GW has rather deftly cut through that gordian knot by making all options available to all players with no penalty (other than perhaps by losing out on artistic cohesion). I believe it is now meaningless to say for example: "a Sylvaneth army" because there is no reason not to take whatever models with whatever abilities you desire to round out your available toolset, so to speak. It is, I believe, dishonest to continue with any sort of expectation that each type of keyword (Wanderer, Highborn, Stormcast Eternal, Sylvaneth) will have the same type of completeness that we used to find in army books in the past.

I would not be expecting any new Sylvaneth models, not to say that there won't be any, but I wouldn't be expecting them.