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, but since you can not really contact them, there is little chance it'll ever see it.
I reeeeaaaaallllyyyy appreciate it 
)...or I do not understand that point of you
Seemend pretty close though, so well-balanced . You had a really interesting list. . Do you think 5 is overpowered ? Yes, it's all in the Asrai LongbowSpecial Rules
-I notice you have no Asrai Archery type ability, is that intentional?
- Forest Beasts...I thought, since they are WB, the only size is 25*50 ? Overall, they bring rank for "cheap", and random movement allow them to charge units that tend to flee/shoot and stand and so, in other word, units that tend to be a pain for us.- I assume you mean 5 the spell?, I think the wood elf lore would be maybe one of maybe 4 lore’s I think could have a spell which does this (Light, Shadow, Vampire Counts and Wood elf’s) . I think the order of 3, 4 and 5 isn’t a neat fit.
- I mean 3, regen in the Ogre Kingdoms book is cast on a 12+/20 has the same effect but doesn’t turn existing Regen into normal Ward. I think that is powerful and the argument can be made its broken.
I’d suggest either 1, increasing the casting cost ,2 decreasing the Regen number to 5+,3 remove the effect multiple friendly units and leave the casting value alone.-Yes, I thought about that. In fact, I made the spell using the TK Ward Save spell as a reference. Then, I saw the Ogre Kingdom one....Given some thoughts, I assume that it is cast on 12+ because of the high T of Ogres, making them even more hard to Wound, whereas skeletons have T3....I decided to stick with my first idea because elves have T3 and Spirits have a 5+WS so do not take a lot of benefit from a 4+ Regen...But I may be wrong.
Transforming a Regen in a Ward was just an idea to make the spell usefull on every model, but it's far from compulsory...
-This was the first upgraded version. I changed it because...well the character is howling so a radius of effect just felt..."cooler"-Kurnous’ Blessing I think the beefed up version may be better as an increased version which still only affects one unit. I.e. 3d6 movement or +1A and Re-roll to wound. As we have allot of movement but this lets us charge without giving the opportunity to stand and shoot, also as what’s meant to be the fasted army in the game spectrum this a movement spell which lets use charge is totally unique.
- 6''...isn't it a bit to small ? I mean, WE do not tend to regroup units, usually. 12'' would be broken. 6'' to short ? Any other opinions ?-Twilight host is the only spell here i think would be good as an affect all friendly units within 6” on the higher casting level.
Units
-Concerning the Forest Beasts Rout, What base size are they? also I fail to see the benefit of them over say the other chooses.
-The Wandering Herds, again I’m having problems with what use it has. Is it a Mangler Squig esque type unit?
-the elite archer unit i suggested was just a throw away idea I don’t expect it to be given any thought. But I’ve read several Fan made wood elf army books and not one had elite archer cav. If you did give them thought i would suggest a high volume shooting unit, as that’s one ability this book doesn’t have anywhere and might be fun.
-i want to make sure i v understood this right, Archmage, if I want a Wood shaper 200p; i need to auto upgrade to a Yenayla (Glamourweave) as a Kel-Isha is only for the spellweaver. For that 20p i get herald of the forest and forest sprit. But also must take a mount and no magic items. On top of that i need to take a Glamourweave as a Wood-seer. This gives me a slightly different Herald of the Forest abilty. My point if that is true, would it not be simpler to make the lookout Sir Benefit of the wood Seer ability an amendment to the herald of the forest rule. EG
--Wood seer, the model with Herald of the Forest special rule who is your Wood-Seer, may benefit from a lookout Sir roll when 3” away from any friendly unit or Terrain piece which isn’t a building, ruin or open terrain.
(iv included nearly all natural terrain pieaces as i think the benfit isnt that great when compared to the negative if he dies.)
Someone was proposing to give the Eternal Guard à 5+ Regen instead of a 4+. That way, I could let the Ariel Blessing be a 4+ Ward Save (could still be cast on Eternal Guard). Or just let it as it is, not touching the Eternal Guard and not allowing the Ward Save.-You have a point comparing the effects of the spell on T3 and T4, except the TK spell only gives a 5+ ward save not a 4+ Regen save and or a 4+ Ward save. Considering the comparison id say lost the Ward Save but as nearly everything in the book would benefit from the Regen and only the eternal guard would benefit from the Ward save.
Yep, you're totally right about unit size. A core unit, why not, but wouldn't it be a bit strange, since Laith-Kourn are not very numerous ? Though they represent only few models in a unit. If so, I'd change the bonus for Alter Higborn to : Forest Beasts Routs unit 12" away from an Alter Highborn may re-roll their random attack dice.-Forest beasts I thought as much just wanted to check, not a fan of the random number of attacks but the points per beast is low to compensate which is fine, id drop the unit size down to 5+beats and 1 pack master, so you can have a fast none flying chaff unit. Like supped up giant rats. Could also move this unit to core if you dropped the unit size.
The Bolas rues do they over rule the rules for Monster and handler where the handlers can attack any one in base contact with monster?
You're right, I'll work on something like this. I just have to finish another writing job before-(Wood Shaper)I just checked your right I glossed over the entry and it can have magic items.
I don’t think it is too powerful, if we have a Wood Seer you’ll either keep it in a unit in which case it’ll get the 2+ look out sir roll. If it is outside a unit in all cases except ruins, buildings and open ground it’ll get a 4+ look out sir roll if it’s within 3” of a unit or terrain. Considering if this guy dies our army starts to panic I think we’ll be extra careful keeping it in units or out of line of sight. My point being the rule won’t be relied upon in most cases but is a nice buffer in case we make a error.
No they don't. Personal judgement, I just do not like it and do not see the point of giving them an Eagle-Your sister sof twilight and dawn don’t have the option for the eagle Gwindalor?
. Their all purpose is to field a Dragon, as far as I'm concerned I'm sorry Jamesaet3, what do you mean ?Yeah, not too sure about the WE 8th edition you've got.
I might do one tonight...Since terrain are generated randomly like in 4-5th, using the 4-5th rule was logical. Besides, the actual wood is useless since unit are much bigger now, and the battlefield already crowded with terrain piecesI really liked the Woodland Wardens change up. That works better with the new terrain selection rules than the "Just add a forest" ability that is the default.
The Secret Path spell in the 6th Army Book does what you suggest. In fact, I've always found it to be pretty useless : if you really want to protect a unit with it, the opponent will make efforts to dissipate it, or just concentrate fire on something else. He can also just charge the protected unit : flee or stand and die for you. Great on paper, not that much on play, but maybe I'm just playing it wrong.I was thinking that the Twilight Host ability doesn't really fit with the WE. They don't have any ethereal units and making a unit ethereal even for one round is very powerful. Ethereal units are usually very expensive in any other army, so much so that you can't field more than a few in a unit. I would recommend just making them "Ethereal for the purposes of movement only" and that'll still give them the ability to move around the battlefield without making them invincible for a round to anyone without magical weapons.
).You're right, it a big problem for them being Skirmishers. But I just can not manage to go as far as making them RnF units, because they used to be (4-5E) even more than Skirmishers : complete freedom of movement and formation, even on contact ! They might even have been the first Skirmishers or so in the game. Taking that from them is too hard for meI think the Wardancers are problematic being Skirmishers. They have Skirmish yet they have abilities that also depend on ranks. The one that lets them make supporting attacks, does that even work when they have zero ranks? Skirmishers have been majorly nerfed in 8th edition. I recommend just taking out Skirmishing entirely for them, or make it a free upgrade in case someone really wants it. They could just cherry pick the good skirmisher rules under different special rules you make up in order to avoid the zero ranks problem.
. But if you come if a cool RnF setting for them, feel free to share and we might give them .Honestly I never thought about that, but it is indeed a neat ideaCan the bolas be used to make a stand a shoot reaction? I think that it's a neat idea since those are throwing weapons anyway.
How would you play it ? They are already fired at the begining of the combat phase, so it more or less similar. Give them an actual weapon profile ?I was thinking of using something similar to the Blasting Charges that the Dwarf Miners have. Although those are a one use only item that can be equipped on them as an extra. So maybe just make them a non-standard shooting weapon with a short range.Xlatoc wrote: Honestly I never thought about that, but it is indeed a neat idea
I'll have a battle against Empire tonight. I'll give you a report soon
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is this saying that waywatchers are capable of sneaking right up to a enemies face without being seen??? (I guess it happened in Orion with drycha and the dead glade guard, well dead after drycha had her way)A Nimraif Highborn gives its unit one of the following benefit : they may be deployed as Scout but no
less than 1'' away from any enemy unit
for striking the enemy, does this allow re-rolling both number of hits and wounds?A model with a Deepwoods Hexer may re-roll the dice determining the effect of Treesinging (whether
for moving a wood or striking an enemy)
Can you please specify when this happens (after opponent declares spell but before they pick dice/after picking dice?)During an enemy Magic Phase, you may decide not
to dispel ONE enemy spell
