Skarlock wrote:...and not just a focus on results.
I don't mean that your must have completed a full model to get comments on. My fault, sorry
I just mean that it will be a lot easier to give a good advice that will fit for the result you're desiring when watching at a mini that already got not a single, but 2 or 3 (even if 'minor') changes already so that people get an idea of the end result. If you want more input after each step try out describing what you have in mind for the mini and where your current problem is - I'm pretty sure this will leave you with more helpful comments
Skarlock wrote:Thanks again Lune for letting me know how things work on this Forum
I'm not the voice of this forum, it's just my limited point of view - if that covers partially members here that share the same point it's more of a coincedence than actually the summed up consensus And as Conar already said: your conversion on the hair is done quite well - I tried to just make my EG champion's hair longer and there are still gaps I have to fill
Well here is the progress on my Spell Singer. I have modeled a top onto her in a similar style to that worn by the Sisters of Twilight so that she fits in with the WE figures theme, and doesn't just look like a DE painted differently. I also started to add Spites to the "magic" around her. It is my intension to make the "magic" look like a tree singing spell, an as such will have spites on it. I don't think I will add any extra branches to the "magic" because it will look over crowded, what are your thoughts?
I am still planning out how to make her staff. It is extreemly thin! I am thinking that I will use left over Dryad branches to fashion the end into the shape described earlier in this post. Has anyone elso had experience working with this staff, or other similarily thin pieces?
I have also worked on my Alter Kindred. This was tricky because there were not any existing breasts to use as references for size and positioning. Again I tried to immitate the SOT clothing. The alter Kindred will be hooded in a similar style to the Way Watcher Lord to further emphasize her solitary disposition. She will have a shield on her back that I will scratch build, and I am also going to model a Forest Dragon hatchling onto her "crow" arm and have her resting that hand on a great sword which will be hanging horizontally across her back at waist height from her belt. I am still not sure if I will have the sword sheathed or not. Any thoughts on this?
"Athel Loren shall not suffer the presence of Men, nor Orcs, nor Dwarfs, nor Beastmen. If a foe takes a single step upon such sacred soil, they shall not take another." Skarloc, Mist Walker of Athel Loren
Nice converting so far, the treekin are looking nice and the whole project is pretty original. Umm.. one thing I noticed, the spellsinger is a very well endowed elf lady *ahem*
Guys, These are little pieces of lead/tin not objects for you to lust over . I appreciate constructive critisim on my work but I am not attempting to run a dating service
If you sincerely believe that the proportions of the sculpt are unrealistic please comment in the appropriate manner.
"Athel Loren shall not suffer the presence of Men, nor Orcs, nor Dwarfs, nor Beastmen. If a foe takes a single step upon such sacred soil, they shall not take another." Skarloc, Mist Walker of Athel Loren
Simply put: the breasts are cup D or above. If this is what you ha in mind then it's all right. If not, try cutting them off and start again with them - small bolts about in the middle of the to-be-breast should help alot stuffing them. Also work in 2 layers - 1st to give a basis to stuff on, 2nd to size them properly and add details such as the clothes. Note that the 2nd layer should be THIN!
Apart from this: the spites look promising so far, as well as your thoughts on how you plan to model these minis sound.
Hope this is finally more in line of the comments and criticism you're hoping for
On a side-note: Fan-service is not the worst thing.. let's people stay in tune
I have decided to leave the sculpt as is. I am not unhappy with the results, the chest of the spellsinger looks a lot bigger in the pictures than it does in real life so I am going to leave it alone.
So here is a quick update on my Spellsingers staff. This is probhably the thinest thing I have ever worked on!!!
I used a Dryad's back brach as the head of the staff and just stuck two of the ends together to create the cross over effect.
I am going to model ivy onto the head of the staff as it continues up the staff so that the transition to the mod is smooth.
Do you think I should make the shaft of the staff bendy/gnarly or keep it straight?
"Athel Loren shall not suffer the presence of Men, nor Orcs, nor Dwarfs, nor Beastmen. If a foe takes a single step upon such sacred soil, they shall not take another." Skarloc, Mist Walker of Athel Loren
A quick update of my progress.
My Spell Singer. As you can see I fixed her chest, gave her a cloak, and finished her staff and Spites.
watch your eyes!!! this Spite is a crack shot
Here is the progress to date on my Alter Kindred Lord. I have created a new head, hood, horns to represent both her "alterness" and possibly a helm of the hunt, along with some WIP gems on her belt. I also fixed this models chest.
"Athel Loren shall not suffer the presence of Men, nor Orcs, nor Dwarfs, nor Beastmen. If a foe takes a single step upon such sacred soil, they shall not take another." Skarloc, Mist Walker of Athel Loren
I didn't see this thread until very recently, so pardon the late response:
The alter conversion looks really good. I didn't really like the original model too much once I tried to paint it myself, but this makes it a lot less boring. Still looking forward to seeing the end result with the left arm.
That said: The transition between breastplate and, well, breasts looks strange to me. I mean, I get the fantasy stereotype of leaving certain parts of the female anatomy unprotected (the "distraction AC" syndrome), but I'm not sure it works here, with the scale armor (or whatever it is) being otherwise very consistent. It may end up sticking out too much (no pun intended).
I appreciate where you are comming from with the armour comment, but the truth is that I tried and can't sculpt scale armour worth a damn so I opted for the easier option.
That being said, here is my finished unit of Tree Kin:
I have more pics of these if anyone is interested.
The start of my Tree Man:
and I have also managed to get my hands on some Daemonettes that I am going to turn into Wardancers! and a mounted spell singer/weaver
"Athel Loren shall not suffer the presence of Men, nor Orcs, nor Dwarfs, nor Beastmen. If a foe takes a single step upon such sacred soil, they shall not take another." Skarloc, Mist Walker of Athel Loren
TheWargamer wrote:Your Treekins look awesome!
Can you explain to me how you made the texture on the treekin?
Because I also want to make my own Treekins and Treeman.
Thank you
I should be able to post aquick tutorial in a week or so. I am very busy with Uni right now
"Athel Loren shall not suffer the presence of Men, nor Orcs, nor Dwarfs, nor Beastmen. If a foe takes a single step upon such sacred soil, they shall not take another." Skarloc, Mist Walker of Athel Loren
Daemonettes as wardancer? Hm. I would recommend to convert them quite a lot; otherwise one will always see the daemonette (and the intention that couldn't match with the un-wood-elfish result). These are just viewing habits that you can't get out of your head. Same with the slaanesh steeds. How are you going to make 'em woodelfish...? Nearly impossible; but prove me wrong.
Greetings. Nice work so far.
Arimata wrote:Daemonettes as wardancer? Hm. I would recommend to convert them quite a lot; otherwise one will always see the daemonette (and the intention that couldn't match with the un-wood-elfish result). These are just viewing habits that you can't get out of your head. Same with the slaanesh steeds. How are you going to make 'em woodelfish...? Nearly impossible; but prove me wrong.
Greetings. Nice work so far.
And this comes from the guy using pterodactyls as warhawks
– it is said that the apples of Athel Loren gain their deep red hue from the blood of its enemies soaking the ground.
The Virgin Forest wrote:... And this comes from the guy using pterodactyls as warhawks
Made your point. But as my we's are to be found in Lustria- can be read in my army-history- teradons fit. And as teradons are just vehicles, imho its a difference than to use demons as the folk itself.
Arimata wrote:Daemonettes as wardancer? Hm. I would recommend to convert them quite a lot; otherwise one will always see the daemonette (and the intention that couldn't match with the un-wood-elfish result). These are just viewing habits that you can't get out of your head. Same with the slaanesh steeds. How are you going to make 'em woodelfish...? Nearly impossible; but prove me wrong.
Greetings. Nice work so far.
And this comes from the guy using pterodactyls as warhawks
He does have a point, a lot of people will raise an eyebrow looking at them, especially if you're making a "standard" wood elf army rather than corrupted/fallen elves.
Having said that I think I see what you're looking to do with them... are you going for shapeshifters/changelings?
I do love the rest of your models and may well steal your spellsinger idea
TheWargamer wrote:Your Treekins look awesome!
Can you explain to me how you made the texture on the treekin?
Because I also want to make my own Treekins and Treeman.
Thank you
I should be able to post aquick tutorial in a week or so. I am very busy with Uni right now
As you can see there will be A LOT of conversion work but that is what I enjoy!!! They will not have any claw arms, I will cut away all Daemonetty bits and resculpt motal limbs onto them as well as arming them with the pictured swords and some spears I have lying around. I am also planning to make a musician out of one of them, she will be holding a harp.
For the mounted Daemonette, I am going to cut her off of the Daemonic steed and mount her on either an Elven steed or a Great Eagle (which would be best in gaming terms?)
What size bases are Wardancers supposed to be mounted on?
Thank you all for your comments! Please feel free to continue critiqueing my work
"Athel Loren shall not suffer the presence of Men, nor Orcs, nor Dwarfs, nor Beastmen. If a foe takes a single step upon such sacred soil, they shall not take another." Skarloc, Mist Walker of Athel Loren
Skarlock wrote:This image is what started it all for me
As you can see there will be A LOT of conversion work but that is what I enjoy!!! They will not have any claw arms, I will cut away all Daemonetty bits and resculpt motal limbs onto them as well as arming them with the pictured swords and some spears I have lying around. I am also planning to make a musician out of one of them, she will be holding a harp.
For the mounted Daemonette, I am going to cut her off of the Daemonic steed and mount her on either an Elven steed or a Great Eagle (which would be best in gaming terms?)
What size bases are Wardancers supposed to be mounted on?
Thank you all for your comments! Please feel free to continue critiqueing my work
A full unit modelled like that would look amazing! Best of luck to you
Wardancers go on a standard infantry base (I think they're 20mm)
And as Conar already said: your conversion on the hair is done quite well - I tried to just make my EG champion's hair longer and there are still gaps I have to fill 
. I appreciate constructive critisim on my work but I am not attempting to run a dating service 
so I opted for the easier option.
