Swift Reform after a move?

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Swift Reform after a move?

Post by pivole »

I've been reading the rulebook (still haven't managed to get a game in), and I find the rules for swift reforms to be quite vague. Am I only allowed to do the reform at the beginning of my move, or can I move forwards and then about-turn?
I wondered because I recall an article (with some wonderful diagrams) about just running around enemy units shooting at them while they try and get you into a charge arc for long enough. It's perfectly possible that it was, in fact, just a fast cavalry tactica, not generic, but any response is appreciated.
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Re: Swift Reform after a move?

Post by Gerner »

The normal rules are you can only switftreform and then move.
BUT!
You can march forward and wheel, turning your front arc later.
And Fast Cavalry can reform as many times as they want during their movement. :)
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Re: Swift Reform after a move?

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Ah, blast. You can't fire on the march as ranked infantry, can you?
So the question is, what do I do once the distance to the enemy has been closed
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Re: Swift Reform after a move?

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Don't forget you can move backwards and to the side (not both in one move) half a units movement characteristic rounded up. Moving three inches back can help keep you out of charge range or on the high end of an enemy units charge range while still being at s4 range with glade guard. I do it to Ogres all the time! Good luck and have fun. :D
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Re: Swift Reform after a move?

Post by godswearhats »

Also, don't be afraid to just march away and not shoot at all. Better that than dying :-)
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Re: Swift Reform after a move?

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Marching away is how tournament WE players were successful and with no Armour or combat ability it isn't gamey.
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Re: Swift Reform after a move?

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Just to give a little more clarity to the OP, reforms happen at the start of a units move. The swift reform is an upgraded reform and is available to the unit if it has a musician. The check for a swift reform is a leadership test, and if you are successful you can still perform actions (move, shoot) after said swift reform. This does mean that you could if you wanted swift reform to about face and then move backwards/forwards as per your question.

As a separate issue that you touched on, rank and file units cannot march and shoot. Fast cavalry and skirmished units can however march and shoot. Both also have unlimited reforms to put you in the right location and orientation too.
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Re: Swift Reform after a move?

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Thanks to all for the help and clarifications. I'll have a think about what to do then.
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