Question about HoD
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- Emeurade
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Question about HoD
I was playing my friend, and I stand and shot with my Hail of Doom arrow. He didn't really believe that I could do it, so could you give me a reference to prove it to him? I've seen it done in all of the battle reports, and love doing it. Thanks!
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Re: Question about HoD
It's just a Magic Arrow(s). What's the differance between standing and shooting with a Magic Bow, Magic Arrows, Glade Guard Bow, Normal Bow, or Normal Arrows. Of course you can stand and shoot with your Hail of Doom Arrow.
Turn it around, ask him to find the section that says you can't shoot magic weapons during a stand and shoot...(what army is he playing btw?)
Of course from a tactical stand point, your Noble with a HODA can deliver S4 attacks at 2+ to hit at long range unlike your Glade Guard Bows which only has S4 at 15". Just a thought, sometimes it's nice when T4 guys panic near their own edge and run off the board.
Noght
Turn it around, ask him to find the section that says you can't shoot magic weapons during a stand and shoot...(what army is he playing btw?)
Of course from a tactical stand point, your Noble with a HODA can deliver S4 attacks at 2+ to hit at long range unlike your Glade Guard Bows which only has S4 at 15". Just a thought, sometimes it's nice when T4 guys panic near their own edge and run off the board.
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- Emeurade
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Re: Question about HoD
He plays skaven, and is saying that it is a specific rule that he can stand and shoot with his doom rocket. They changed his doomrocket in the FAQ. So he is saying since it is a magic item, it needs to specifically say that I can stand and shoot with it.
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Re: Question about HoD
The Doom Rocket is the exception to the rule, as it's not a normal magic item, and thus why it deserved a FAQ entry. This is in comparison to the Hail of Doom 'Arrow' being a normal magic item and it should be obvious that one can stand and shoot with an arrow, magical or not.Emeurade wrote:He plays skaven, and is saying that it is a specific rule that he can stand and shoot with his doom rocket. They changed his doomrocket in the FAQ. So he is saying since it is a magic item, it needs to specifically say that I can stand and shoot with it.
As Nought said, tell him to find where it says you can't Stand and Shoot with it and if he can't, then you can Stand and Shoot with it.
Well, my ideas for the next book turned out to be a bust.
But it was still fun working on something of this scale.
For those who care:
http://www.asrai.org/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=22620
But it was still fun working on something of this scale.
For those who care:
http://www.asrai.org/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=22620
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Re: Question about HoD
Doomrocket have it FAQed because it is not fired by usualy way and it makes some dificulties in SaS.Emeurade wrote:He plays skaven, and is saying that it is a specific rule that he can stand and shoot with his doom rocket. They changed his doomrocket in the FAQ. So he is saying since it is a magic item, it needs to specifically say that I can stand and shoot with it.
Anyway, if you need rule-based argument, here it is:
Shooting with magical bow, arrow, whatever is NORMAL SHOOTING ATTACK as describet on page 38 and further. Unlike Doomrocket. And that is why doomrocket (and strangleroot, for example) needs to have special rule/FAQ alowing them do SaS, unlike other shooting attacks.If a Stand and Shoot charge reaction is declared, the unit makes a normal, although out of sequence, shooting attack against the charging unit (see the Shooting Phase on page 38 for more details on shooting attacks).
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Re: Question about HoD
Thank you guys, my Hail of Doom stand and shoot has been saved. May the deaths of Skaven commence!!!
Re: Question about HoD
why is it always Skaven players??? :PEmeurade wrote:He plays skaven.
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Re: Question about HoD
lol my thoughts exactly! I once had a skaven player friend who kept on cheating to win until no-one played with him. Haven't seen him since. There must be a connection between those rats and bad sportsmanship.popisdead wrote:why is it always Skaven players??? :PEmeurade wrote:He plays skaven.
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Re: Question about HoD
Skaven are rats. Rats are kin to mice. Mice love cheese. So Skaven must be cheesy
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Re: Question about HoD
My friend is possibly the worst loser in the history of losing. Whenever his opponents (me and others) starts to figure out how to beat his army, he starts to collect a new one. he currently owns Ogres, Dwarfs, Orcs & Goblins, Dark Elves and you guessed it..... Skaven.
He has lost all battles with his Skaven (3-4 games) to this day but for some reason they have cured him of his armyhoarding. When he lose he just make up some wierd and Skaveny reason for it and proclaim that it actually was a win. Me and the other players are baffled
He has lost all battles with his Skaven (3-4 games) to this day but for some reason they have cured him of his armyhoarding. When he lose he just make up some wierd and Skaveny reason for it and proclaim that it actually was a win. Me and the other players are baffled
It´s really cool to have something written here.
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Re: Question about HoD
Sounds like a perfect fit for him, then!Ravenlord wrote:When he lose he just make up some wierd and Skaveny reason for it and proclaim that it actually was a win. Me and the other players are baffled
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Re: Question about HoD
Yeah, read some books from Gotrek & Felix. Thanquol is always thinking in exactly this way.
Logics and tabletops are incompatible.
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Re: Question about HoD
Hahaha! Yeah, I guess it is a perfect match
Have only red the first Gotrek & Felix. Good one though!
Have only red the first Gotrek & Felix. Good one though!
It´s really cool to have something written here.