BSB Chariot

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BSB Chariot

Postby Eru-Andon'Fang » 20 Jun 2011, 16:47

If the BSB is slain in CC, but the chariot survives, it wld be worth 100 pts. Right?

You get 100 bonus pts for taking the BSB, but no points for the unit, as it survived.
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Re: BSB Chariot

Postby soilworker » 21 Jun 2011, 04:43

chariot is removed from play and counted as a casualty I believe (ie lose points for both BSB & chariot) I can't back that up, about 100km from my BRB. think of it like a warmachine and its crew, if I kill the crew then you lose points for the (war machine + crew) despite not having torn apart the war machine.
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Re: BSB Chariot

Postby Overmind » 21 Jun 2011, 05:57

The chariot remains on the battlefireld as per the rules for ridden monsters and you would score no points for the BSB unless the chariot(the rest of the model as in monster mounts), dies.
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Re: BSB Chariot

Postby Shandrakor » 21 Jun 2011, 07:48

If you kill the BSB (or General for that matter) riding a chariot or ridden monster, you score the points for killing the BSB (or General) [+100 each]. On the other hand, you don't gain the points to buy said character on a chariot or a ridden monster until the entire model (character + chariot or monster) is destroyed or fled off the table.
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Re: BSB Chariot

Postby unicorn » 21 Jun 2011, 08:15

Shandrakor wrote:If you kill the BSB (or General for that matter) riding a chariot or ridden monster, you score the points for killing the BSB (or General) [+100 each]. On the other hand, you don't gain the points to buy said character on a chariot or a ridden monster until the entire model (character + chariot or monster) is destroyed or fled off the table.

This is a little contradiction, no? :) You get the points for slaying bsb but not the points for slaying model? And yep, I know, by common sense (and FAQ), this makes perfect sense :D
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Re: BSB Chariot

Postby Eru-Andon'Fang » 21 Jun 2011, 13:15

unicorn wrote: You get the points for slaying bsb but not the points for slaying model? And yep, I know, by common sense (and FAQ), this makes perfect sense :D


So in the end you get just the 100 pts right?
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Re: BSB Chariot

Postby unicorn » 21 Jun 2011, 14:34

Eru-Andon'Fang wrote:So in the end you get just the 100 pts right?

right
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Re: BSB Chariot

Postby Eru-Andon'Fang » 21 Jun 2011, 16:37

Thanks much Unicorn. I don't know what we would do without you.
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Re: BSB Chariot

Postby Shandrakor » 21 Jun 2011, 23:00

unicorn wrote:This is a little contradiction, no? :) You get the points for slaying bsb but not the points for slaying model? And yep, I know, by common sense (and FAQ), this makes perfect sense :D

Hah! Yes it makes perfect sense... :lol: That rule, in the FAQ, where you have to kill the whole thing should have caveated those 2 characters, either by retaining the +100 or by giving character points in addition. But that would be too consistent for GW! :roll:
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Re: BSB Chariot

Postby Overmind » 23 Jun 2011, 02:05

unicorn wrote:
Eru-Andon'Fang wrote:So in the end you get just the 100 pts right?

right



Could I get a quote on that, as I can't seem to find that anywhere and all I see is that the whole model must die for points to be earned.
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Re: BSB Chariot

Postby unicorn » 23 Jun 2011, 10:19

Overmind wrote:...

Yes, whole model needs to die to get points for it. But only BSB/general needs to die to get 100 pts.

Or do you believe that if you have general on dragon, general dies and dragons stays, the dragon still keep the inspiring presence special rule? :D
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Re: BSB Chariot

Postby Overmind » 23 Jun 2011, 15:32

Nope, but I wouldn't claim the extra 100pts either.
My dream for 8th ed Wood Elves: Less need to use Trees, elves get better, less need for me to have a Lord Mage. Not the most realistic, but hey we've got to have wishlists eh?

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