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Regrowth Question

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In the spells description for Regrowth it says it cannot be used to heal characters or their mounts. Is a Treeman technically a character or no ?
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Breeze wrote:In the spells description for Regrowth it says it cannot be used to heal characters or their mounts. Is a Treeman technically a character or no ?
Normal Treemen are not. The Treeman Ancient is a Lord and thus a character.
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A regular treeman is not a character. It is a monster. A treeman ancient on the other hand is a lord and thus a character.
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Thanks for the responses. This is awesome, so potentially a Treeman can be healed 2 or 3 wounds at least with the cast of a regrowth if it is successful (2 sinceD3+1 or D6+1 and 3 given Lifebloom if he is within 12 inches of the caster) I can imagine that this will annoy many opponents :)
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So will casting it on Treekin.
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Breeze wrote:... given Lifebloom if he is within 12 inches of the caster
I am fairly certain that Lifebloom can only be used on Characters and thus not on a Treeman.
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In the explanation of Lifebloom is says it may heal the Wizard himself, or another friendly model within 12 inches. So I take that anything with more than 1 wound can be healed via Lifebloom.
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From my understanding, Lifebloom can be used on characters, monsters, or even war machines, so long as it has more than one wound - in other words, it can't bring a dead model back to life, but it can heal a wounded model.
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~Milliardo~ wrote:Lifebloom [...] war machines
Wow, that's some serious cheese!

The wording's a bit tricky...

On one hand:
Rulebook! Lol! wrote:A war machine's Wounds are always considered to be equal to the number of remaining crew models [...] - the Wounds value on its profile is included only out of completeness.
...implying that the crew models are the ones with the wounds, with one each, thus no Lifebloom...

On the other hand:
Same bloody page wrote:The crew are used only to indicate the remaining number of Wounds
...implying that the crew are nothing but a visual indicator of the multiple wounds of the model... thus yes Lifebloom...

Then there's the third interpretation:
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~Milliardo~ wrote:From my understanding, Lifebloom can be used on characters, monsters, or even war machines, so long as it has more than one wound - in other words, it can't bring a dead model back to life, but it can heal a wounded model.
Your understanding is completely correct.

And that is why empire with STank and Life magic is SO much OP
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There should be a restriction to regrowth and lifebloom that does not let it work on machines and only "living" beings, because as Unicorn said it is terribly OP to be used on a Stank which is hard enough to take down without the support of life magic.
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~Milliardo~ wrote:From my understanding, Lifebloom can be used on characters, monsters, or even war machines, so long as it has more than one wound - in other words, it can't bring a dead model back to life, but it can heal a wounded model.
Can Lifebloom then be used on monstrous infantry (Treekin)?
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IylanKano wrote:Can Lifebloom then be used on monstrous infantry (Treekin)?
Yes. It can be used on any unit in the game, as long as it do not "rise" new (or already dead) models.
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