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Well, one GG unit was panicked of before my first turn, the second one failed a quick reform check. Besides he made sure to deploy very far back from my GG (they were my first two deployments, another failure on my part). I used the WW to stop him from deploying shades to close to me. But he also pu...

My final list: Spellweaver : Talisman of Preservation; Level 4 Wizard; Lore of Heavens; Elven Steed 285 Spellweaver : Dispell Scroll; Level 4 Wizard; Lore of High Magic; Elven Steed 265 Glade Captain : Hail of Doom Arrow; Starfire shafts; Battle Standard; Great weapon; Elven Steed 148 15 Glade Guard...

Hey man, you can lead a horse to water...
I'll try and write up something when I'm not on a phone.

Meanwhile, here are the pics I took on my instagram: https://instagram.com/p/3MhT3sKYKa/

Well, I lost 1240 to 850 or something like that. I forewent trying to snipe his characters with waystalkers and put the money in a lvl 4 heavens instead and she killed a ton of stuff with a powerful comet in turn three. I was too far back with my GG so one unit didn't get to shoot until turn two and...

I like this discussion! Gonna take your suggestions and play around with the pts. My problem is affording two weavers. I want to keep the wild riders for bunkering and cc threat, I want to keep the eagles for redirection and I want to keep the waystalkers for threatening his characters (I'm gonna ki...

You don't think its worth the try to use waystalkers to take out his characters

A new list. Lore of light and TF back on the GG and GR. Spellweaver : Talisman of Preservation; Dispell Scroll; Level 4 Wizard; Lore of Light; Elven Steed 310 Waystalker 90 Waystalker : Bow of Loren 110 Glade Captain : Hail of Doom Arrow; Battle Standard; Great weapon; Elven Steed 144 Waystalker : R...

GG without extra arrows, TF on scouts. I'm not sure why TF is better on scouts instead of GG. I get fewer bodies with TF and my chaff is more expensive. Lore of Life is kind of shitty in an MSU list like this as well. What if I don't get Dwellers? Then she's pretty useless. Light will let me protect...

I can take more archers, but it'll affect the comp if I give them HB or TF arrows.
I already took away the moonstone.

Putting the sorc in the second rank is pivotal to his plan, I'm pretty sure of it, thats why he has all the characters in the same unit.

So heavens and life then?

Good pts on the lores! I hadn't thought of that.

I just thought of something: the sorc will most likely be in the second rank so a further -2 to hir with shooting

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I can't snipe her with anything but WS though. And with the comp, it doesn't matter which model has TF/HB.

Don't forget that he has lore of life so will be able to boost T and regrow the DRs. I think its easier to get pts by killing his shades and chaff and avoid the DR bus if possible. Probably focus fire my WS on the sorceress otherwise he'll just regrow wounds back on any character I don't out right k...

Problem with the sisters is that they cost so much comp points, I'm at the limit already. You think a light council would be better than heavens or shadow? TBH I've never tried light

Those are all good tips, thanks.

I was also thinking, he doesn't have THAT much shooting, most of his killing power is in the characters, and those can easily charge out and kill small units of GG. What if I take all GR core and dance around him?

A friend of mine is training for an ETC tournament and asked me to bring something that could shoot a lot. His list: Dreadlord, Dark steed, heavy armour, shield, sea dragon cloak, giant blade, dawnstone, OT shard 277 Supreme sorceress, level 4 life, Dark steed, dispel scroll, ring of hotek, ruby rin...

Oh man that looks cool! Might have to do something similar with the trunk at least.

That's all solid advice, and correlates with my experience as well. Thanks.

Its pretty obvious that Araloth will return though. Right on time for something important I guess.

Haha how can you make your argument angelus and then say we have no chance agsinst woc netlist? Clearly its not a good argument. I dont worry about woc netlist at all, many times ive played variations of that army and i haven't lost yet. Please tell me how you do this, WoC (and DoC) are my least fa...

how should a wood elf deploy im using lords and heros in a sisters bunker eternal guard with two units of glade guard to make up core (2400 pts swedish) with some scouts war dancers wild riders treeman and two eagles should I be looking at deploying on a flank or two flanks? or keep out of the.midd...

Going "you deploy this there so I deploy this here" is very reactionary and can lead to the units in your army not supporting each other properly. This is very apparent in armies like VC and OnG. Luckily our WE are very fast and manouverable and don't suffer that much. It can be very usefu...

Making the magic phase less reliant on 6-dice casting mega-spells is good. Being able to spam buffs and give your opponent -3 to hit in combat and -3 Ld (three castings of the SIGNATURE spell from lore of Heavens) is not and its easily achievable with this system. I do think some of the ET rules cha...

Ben Curry of the Bad Dice podcast had a few daily episodes where he talks about MSU and avoidance armies and how to use and counter them.

One of his tips is just this. To line troops in a wide manner and "sweep" the avoidance army of the table by boxing it in.

Thats fine and I don't rush out and buy all the new stuff either, but at least make sure you know the sourcw material first.

You guys should just get a room